
This is Ehab Moh'd Y. Alazah. He is a Jordanian. He is a Muslim. He works as an industrial electrician in the oil industry.
Mohammed, Attiya, and Ibrahim asked that their real names and their photographs not be used for this story. They are from a Middle Eastern country that does not respect free speech rights, and fear what may happen if their identities were known.
All of them pray five times daily and attend the Mosque on Friday, their Sabbath. They all follow the five tenets of Islam:
1. Pray five times daily.
2. Perform a hajj to Mecca at least once in your life.
3. Give to those in need, if you can afford it.
4. Observe the fast during Ramadan.
5. Protect you and yours when threatened.
As one, they say that the taking of innocent life goes against the tenets of Islam. There was no doubt in their voices as each, one after the other, affirmed their beliefs that what has happened at the World Trade Center five years ago, as well as what is happening in Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as what occurred in Lebanon about a month ago all fail the test of humanity: Innocents were killed, and that is wrong.
"I was sorry (when I heard about the planes and the WTC)," said Attiya. "I don't like these things."
They express regret that the people in the World Trade Centers were just going about their lives. They had not brought this death upon themselves.
"We are not here to kill someone who has done nothing to me. I would not be happy if someone has been killed for nothing," said Mohammed.
"They are normal people. It is very bad if they are killed just because of their religion. They are whatever they are. It is very bad. Religion is not the main, basic thing," added Ibrahim.
About the hijackers, Ibrahim said, "We do not know what (their intentions were). It is just bad."
"I don't know why it happens in the United States," said Mohammed. "Why not somewhere else?" He went on to state that there was no reason to attack the US. Whatever problems existed were not the fault of the US, nor of the people in the World Trade Center towers. He was at a loss to explain what reasoning could have explained the attack.
As one, they believe that much of what George Bush has done has been unfair.
"He has done unfair things," said Ibrahim.
"He is following what Israel says," adds Mohammed. They feel this view is widespread among Muslims. George Bush and Tony Blair, for example, they explain, did not ask Israel to stop when they invaded Lebanon. Many of the British people they meet think that Blair defers too much to George Bush's wishes.
They deplore the loss of innocent life in Lebanon. Why did Bush not stop the Israelis? How many innocent people were killed in the 31 days of fighting? They lament.
"Forget about the Muslim side now. We have some friends who are British. They are thinking about their (Prime Minister) Tony Blair. He is not a straight man. He is following (George Bush's lead.) We don't go that far, because we don't know that much about it. We can only be thinking (what we think) from what we see on the news," says Ibrahim.
They, too, do not trust their media and journalists. This feeling is also prevalent in America. People want correct and true information, which is the responsibility of the press.
"Most of the world is thinking that George Bush is not doing enough in Lebanon to stop the Israelis. He is standing on the Israeli side more than on Lebanon's side," points out Ibrahim, referring to the fact that Bush did nothing to force the Israelis to stop killing innocents. "Many people got killed there, and they have done nothing."
"There was not a quick response to stop this. What was it? 31? 34 days? And how many people were (killed because of this delay)? This is what we are talking about."
As to Afghanistan, Mohammed said, "I think it was Osama bin Laden's mistake. You know now that in Europe and the United States, they have changed their views about Muslims. Before, it was no problem. Now, after this has happened... Osama bin Laden, he thinks what he has done has helped the Muslims, but he has moved them down (in world opinion). Now, if I want to go to the USA, they say, 'Oh! Muslim! (My country)! Go back.' We are no longer welcome."
"They will think I am a terrorist. Blah, blah, blah. I cannot get a visa to come to learn."
Ibrahim, though, thinks, "I am just thinking about the people who are being killed (in Afghanistan). I don't care about what else. The people are being killed. What for?" He thinks that little is now being accomplished there.
"(George Bush's decision to go into Afghanistan) was correct for some, but for others it was bad- children, families..." Attiya's voice trails off as he finishes.
They feel George Bush was half-right to go into Afghanistan. It is the fault of Osama bin Laden, but there are too many innocents suffering.
"I hear from the news that there are 4000 people that do not come in to work on 9/11. Why is that? Did they know something? In that day, they are not there" asks Mohammed. The conspiracy theories of Michael Moore and crowd are alive and well and causing otherwise open-minded Muslims to question the West's view of history.
Asked if he believes it true about the 4000 not showing up, he says, "I don't know. If they were not there, then it means something to me."
In regards to Iraq, they point out that daily we hear of more people being killed. Again, George Bush is not their favorite person.
Ibrahim states, "I think George Bush is just going mad here. He is fighting in Afghanistan. He is in Iraq. He wants to go into Iran. He is trying to stop some things, like to keep Iran from getting nuclear weapons, but he doesn't mind other countries having them."
He continues, "They don't have the right to have these things, but other countries, it is OK. This is not right. About Iraq, OK, he's done it. Saddam Hussain is captured. Why is (Bush) still there? Why does he not leave now? I see the Japanese soldiers, they have pulled out. I don't think (the US remaining in Iraq) is going to stop things."
Attiya chimes in, "I think it is done. Finished. It is killing the children and the families, the US remaining in Iraq. It is done. He should (pull out the troops and leave)."
"You see now what is happening in Iraq. Almost 50, 60 people being killed everyday," says Mohammed. "(The US Army) cannot stop it. I think they cannot do it."
Asked about Saddam Hussain and his trial, they all agree that he is getting a fair trial. The Iraqi people should be in charge, as they are, and that will give justice. They wonder why it is going on so long, though.
"From what we see on the news, (Saddam is getting a fair trial). It is the Iraqi people doing it. (Saddam) has done this. He has killed people. The judge will do the right thing," said Ibrahim.
Mohammed has an interesting observation, "It is going on too long. How long has it been? Forty (months)? I think it is like," he turns to Ibrahim for help in a translation, "It is like a soap opera. It just goes on and on."
They are unanimous in their views on Osama bin Laden's actions, "It is hurting Islam. Islam doesn't say you can kill children. He has something else in his mind, I think. He says America is killing some children and some families so he can do the same, but that is not good," thinks Attiya.
"(Osama bin Laden) says, 'The American army, they are killing people, so we have to do the same thing. But if you do that, same-same, then you are killing (innocents, which goes against Islam)," says Mohammed.
Ibrahim says about bin Laden, "He says the Israelis are killing kids. This is not right, but then he kills children. Why is he doing this? This is not his reason. I don't know his reason, but it is not what he says."
Ibrahim continues, "Now everyone says Islam is doing this. That is not true. (bin Laden) has something personal in this. I don't know why he does it."
Islam is being hurt by this. "Israelis are killing children in Lebanon. This is not good. Bin Laden is killing children. This is not good. It is not about religion. It is not about Muslims or Christians or one country or another. It is about (innocents) being killed for no reason. This is not good," says Ibrahim.
"We have something in our religion that says, 'If you kill someone who has done nothing, then it is like killing everyone in the world,'" points out Mohammed.
Asked how he would feel if he heard bin Laden had been killed, Attiya says, "Sure. It's going to happen. Eventually, bin Laden will be killed."
"I hope then that things in Afghanistan stop. That bin Laden is dead would mean that things end there," hopes Ibrahim, because bin Laden was the reason the US went into Afghanistan, so then the US could leave.
At this point, Ehab arrived. He was the only one of the four who had heard about the Pope's remarks. He said, "I heard an Arab man from Lebanon. He says, 'The Pope was not saying that he believes (the controversial quote). He graduated from that school, and went back there to give this lecture. He is an academic man. He was saying you cannot have it just in your heart, but you must also have it in your head.' I believe this is true. The (anger) is not right. It is not like the Danish cartoons. They were done to insult Islam."
"The man who drew these things in Denmark," asks Ibrahim, "Why did he do that? Did someone insult his religion? Why did he do that?"
"The Pope's remarks are being used by others for political means," he concludes.
When asked if he has anything else to add, Ehab is not at a loss for words.
(At this point my recorder died, so what follows is as close to accuracy as I can manage.)
"What is going on in Palestine is a fight for the 5th tenet of Islam. I am a Palestinian man, but I live in Jordan. If I were still in Palestine, I would not come to work in an American company. Everyone is tired of this long fight. Old people are tired of it. Now, with the fight, you may not live beyond 20 years. I am not saying this point about Islam only," but that everyone is tired of this long fight.
"I need to say that most Muslim people want to live peacefully in this life. I disagree with the regulations they are making against Muslims to get to the USA. This is the 21st Century. We have the right to use modern technology. We have the right to live peacefully. The US is giving the technology to other countries like Singapore and Europe. We have the right to this as well."
"We have oil under the ground in Jordan. We need America's and Europe's help to get it out, to learn to do it for ourselves. Does this mean that we will stop dealing with America and Europe when we learn how to do it ourselves? Of course not. We will continue to trade because we will know that you will help us when we need it."
"I can go anywhere I want. I have work, I can speak other languages. I cannot travel to the US now. Some people come to the US go there to work, but others go for other reasons. I have the right to go, like other people. It does not matter what my religion is. I am a peaceful man. It is the same as other people."
Ibrahim adds, "You cannot say that a man is bad because he is a muslim. I cannot say that you are bad because your president has done something wrong, just because you are an American. Why can you say this about the Muslims?
We don’t have free speech, so I can’t say our President is a bad man. They will come to me to get me. Saying some man is a bad man does not mean that the nation he leads is bad. There is no bad nation, but there are bad People."
He then illustrates this with an analogy. He holds up his hand, fingers side-by-side, pointing up. "You see that your fingers are not the same length. It means they are different, not that they are bad. The middle finger is long, but that does not mean that it is better than the other fingers."
They conclude that Muslims are like Christians and other religions. They want to live their lives in peace, and better themselves and their families. Right now, the world seems to be against them, and will not let them do what others can do. They feel the brunt of this inequality, but can do nothing about it.